Thursday, August 30, 2007

Request For Comments - Taxes

This Request for Comments or RFC is my play on the old RFC's which were used to solicite ideas and critism in developing the way computers communicate, finally culminating in the internet we have today. I am requesting comments on some ideas I have regarding taxation.

Debates on taxation are nothing new, recently we have two specific ideas emerging the Flat Tax and the Fair Tax.

First, we will visit the ideas of a Flat Tax. Steve Forbes is a leading advocate of the Flat Tax and under the Forbes' Flat Tax plan there would be one 17% tax - with "generous and refundable exemptions for adults and children". Uh... so basically, it's not really a Flat Tax for everyone. Inevitably, the poor will not pay ANY tax and possibly even get more money than they paid in, and the middle class and wealthy will end up picking up the tab. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating that the poor people pay any more taxes than anyone else, but what I am saying is that Robin Hood was a crook. I don't want anyone to starve, but maybe federal taxation isn't the most moral or efficient way to go about taking care of the needy. Laurence Vance has a pretty good analysis in his article Flat Tax Folly.

Next we have the Fair Tax. The idea is being spear-headed by Neal Boortz and John Linder in "The Fair Tax Book". Again Laurence M. Vance disects the in's-and-out's of the Fair Tax argument in his article There is No Such Thing as A Fair Tax. In a nutshell, the Fair Tax would get rid of the income tax, FICA, Medicare, Estate Tax, Capital Gains tax...etc.... Hooyah!... Sounds good right? Well, it makes up for all this with a 23% National Sales Tax on goods and services. Ouch. Interesting idea, and i'm all for dismantling the IRS, but I think that we should look at the entire plan and know what we are getting ourselves into first.

Either way, advocates of both the Flat Tax and the Fair Tax are selling it as a great step forward in the idea of taxation. I don't really see it that way, although the Fair Tax is a departure from the idea of an income tax, which is awesome. However, neither proposals address the underlying issue of federal spending, which is the real culprit. Both taxes still enable the Federal Government to continue their binge spending. Is there an option that would still give the public what they need, without the inefficiency of federal redistribution? I think so. Here is where my Request for comments applies.

For fear of stating the obvious, I believe the problem stems from the public paying the U.S. Treasury directly. Why not restructure the tax system from a top down structure to a bottom up structure. Let me explain. When we pay our taxes directly to the Treasury through either an income tax or a national sales tax, congress takes the money and deals it out to various departments, programs etc... If we are lucky we might see the money again if we happen to use one of the services of government, but we lose the power to determine what those dollars are spent on. Classical redistribution of wealth. What if we paid a flat tax to our local county government instead. Say, a maximum 10% income tax? No exemptions save one. Education. Not a credit, but an adjustment to income. In this type of structure the county would have considerable money, and the people would have power in determining how the money was spent. What about the State and National government? After collecting tax revenue at the county level, each county would pay a percent of their gross revenue to the State government say 10 -15%? The State government would use that revenue to pay for highways, bridges, State Parks, National Guard etc... Finally, the Federal Government would collect a 10 - 20% tax from the State's gross income. However, whatever the Federal government collects, it must be the same rate nationwide. Congress could now fund the DoD, State Department, and whatever else we determine it should spend it's very limited budget on.

I think this approach seems to be the most efficient way of using taxpayer money. It also has the benefit of increasing the number of new ideas and solutions to problems. Right now when the Congress passes a law or implements a new program, it applies to everyone. If counties are free to fund pilot programs in response to a local problem, everyone will have the benefit of learning what others are doing in response to different problems.

That's pretty much it. Again, I invite any ideas, suggestions for improval.

Thanks.

4 comments:

Cy Hugo Green said...

Interesting argument, though a flat tax and/or national sales tax would certainly be a step in the right direction. I like the idea of bottom-up control of finances and the application of market theory to local and state governments (which they already try, but with limitations). Crunch some numbers and this idea could have legs.... Ahem, until the federal gov't and court systems get a hold of you (16th amendment)!

Cy Hugo Green said...

www.prodigalsonfinance.blogspot.com

J D said...

Please pretend I never submitted the 1:28 PM above and read this instead.

Paul, I linked to your web page from the link you posted at:

http://blog.mises.org/archives/004428.asp

I recommend you return to that blog, do a search on "Dave Franklin" and read his comments carefully. According to Mr. Franklin, any taxes on life's work -- compensation for labor -- is foreign to the constitution.

While I have not read the books about "Flat" tax, etc. I have no doubt they exempt the rich. They would otherwise not come to public attention.

It would be a great surprise if "The Fair Tax" were assessed on the purchase of common stock or government bonds. Any tax proposal which does not tax transactions not commonly available at all economic levels, can in no way be considered fair.

To make tax exempt funds spent to gain more funds is unfair to those with insufficient funds to participate in similar transactions.

The sixteenth amendment should be expanded to include a definition of "Income" consistent with Dave Franklin’s comments.

The definition should be the GAIN in cash assets from one fiscal year to the next. This gain should be taxed at the same rate for all individuals and organizations. There should be no tax exempt organizations or foundations.

Churches, etc. and Foundations which have gains in funds from year to year are not likely to be doing with their funds the things for which they solicit those funds.

millerpm said...

Thank you for your comments. I did read Dave Franklin's post and absolutely concer 100% that taxes on compensation for labor is immoral and completely foreign to the Constitution. And while I might agree philosophically, most people don't. (Dumbing down of America?) My post however was not intended to debate the rightness or wrongness of wage taxes, but to present another alternative to a Federal "income" tax and/or "Fair" tax. The main goal of getting the power to tax individuals away from Washington to a more local level.

Again, comments are welcome.